Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

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Who does Black Friday "right"?

Walmart, where everything is sold out by the time the sale begins, but you can get stuff if you want to wander around the store with a full shopping cart for 5 hours.
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24%
Every other store, where you form a line and enter the fully stocked store at opening time.
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76%
 
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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby azerigold » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:00 am

I voted Walmart. Our Walmart does try their best to put things where they belong, and employees try their best to help you if your looking for something.
IMO there is a lot more stuff than there are employees, so it really is hard to keep people out of all the pallets since they spread them out so much through the store.
While Walmart seems unfare, really IMO it's not unfare at all, at least not at the WM I shop at. It's no different than these people surrounding the pallets and doing the mad dash, and the 'newbies' still getting pushed, shoved, etc. Instead, it wasn't a mad dash or pushing/shoving, etc, it was quiet, people taking things from the pallets without a mad dash.

Anyway, anyone who shows up at '10pm' ummm...what do they expect? To get dibs on the sale items? I didn't learn to be there early for sales on a website, it was common sense LOL After my first year going I knew that I had to be there early to get the deals, or to even get a shopping cart. You get there late 'You snooze, you lose."

BTW, our WM used to try to guard all the pallets and nobody touch them until the designated time, BUT 2 years ago was the last time they did that and it was chaotic. It was so much more laid back this year and last year...so this 'works' for our store.

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby tlwg04 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:56 am

teknoge3k wrote:For people who use this forum every year, it'd be Walmart because the regulars on this board KNOW to go to Walmart several hours early if they want to get everything on the list. Those who are new to Walmart, or who don't read these forums would vote the other way because they don't know to get there early.



i know to get there early, and I have done WM on BF. I stand true to my earlier preference. doesnt mean I dont know better, it just means i prefer not to be carried out on a stretcher. 8)

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby tlwg04 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:06 am

BFVet wrote:
teknoge3k wrote:For people who use this forum every year, it'd be Walmart because the regulars on this board KNOW to go to Walmart several hours early if they want to get everything on the list. Those who are new to Walmart, or who don't read these forums would vote the other way because they don't know to get there early.

But you're just guessing. You never really know.

Say you get to WalMart at 7:00, but this year they decided not to bring out any of the pallets yet. At 8:30 they start rolling pallets out, but have $7.65/hour Walmart employees guarding them and telling you that you can't put things in your cart. Finally, when 10:00 hits, they unwrap everything. Great! Whatever you happen to be standing next to, you'll get. But that's all you'll get.

So, you get there plenty early, might even be first in line if there were actually a line, and you get one thing.

Of course, you might luck out and guess right as to how the store is going to handle Black Friday. And if you do guess right, you'll like get a lot of the things on your list.

Compare that to every other store. You get there early enough to be first in line, and with rare exception, you're virtually guaranteed to get everything you want. If you don't, its because you didn't scout the store and know where to get things - and, accordingly, you've got only yourself to blame. If you don't get eveything you want at WalMart, its because WalMart doesn't know how to operate a Black Friday sale.



yup to all of this. too much guesswork is required at WM when i dont have to do that at every other store.

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby BFVet » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:27 am

tlwg04 wrote:
teknoge3k wrote:For people who use this forum every year, it'd be Walmart because the regulars on this board KNOW to go to Walmart several hours early if they want to get everything on the list. Those who are new to Walmart, or who don't read these forums would vote the other way because they don't know to get there early.



i know to get there early, and I have done WM on BF. I stand true to my earlier preference. doesnt mean I dont know better, it just means i prefer not to be carried out on a stretcher. 8)


Yep. I, and the majority of the poll respondents, agree with you. Makes you wonder who are really the ignorant ones - those that go to WalMart for Black Friday, or those who avoid it.

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby bfaddict » Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:37 am

well your voting options are a little biased lol

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby azerigold » Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:34 am

BFVet wrote:
tlwg04 wrote:
teknoge3k wrote:For people who use this forum every year, it'd be Walmart because the regulars on this board KNOW to go to Walmart several hours early if they want to get everything on the list. Those who are new to Walmart, or who don't read these forums would vote the other way because they don't know to get there early.



i know to get there early, and I have done WM on BF. I stand true to my earlier preference. doesnt mean I dont know better, it just means i prefer not to be carried out on a stretcher. 8)


Yep. I, and the majority of the poll respondents, agree with you. Makes you wonder who are really the ignorant ones - those that go to WalMart for Black Friday, or those who avoid it.


I'm not ignorant and I go to WM. I like going to our WM, as I've already stated. To each their own, guess I am not 'scared' haha.... I've never had an incident at WM that makes me think I shouldn't go there.
Maybe it gets really crazy after I leave, but I honestly don't care.... it's while I am there that makes all the difference to me ;)

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby tlpbupu » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:03 pm

Other than big electronics, and sometimes even then, my Walmart always has plenty of stock and yes it is on the floor. My store is very strict about how they run bf and the pallets are never allowed to be open before the sale starts. The last two years they have actually escorted people from the store for having sale things before they give the "official" intercom notice to open. With the exception of video games (I will NEVER do that again) I have been able to get everything I've always wanted. Even the year that I had stood in line for a laptop. I was there early enough to be second in line for it, got my laptop and ran to the next pallet. I had already scoped the store out and knew where everything was.
While this may sound good there have also been years where if I was close to a pallet I couldn't get away from it because of the crowd pushing in behind me. That year I actually had to grab a handful of whatever toy was on the pallet and hand them out to the people to one side so they'd move and let me out. I've seen people get knocked down and not able to get up. Last year I had to pull a 11-12 year old up off the ground because people were reaching over him for video games.

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby BFVet » Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:13 pm

tlpbupu wrote:The last two years they have actually escorted people from the store for having sale things before they give the "official" intercom notice to open.

I was going to ask how this was handled at a store like yours. I've honestly never seen a WalMart employee that would care enough to take any sort of action like this. Just curious, is this a particularly small WalMart or in a particularly small market?

tlpbupu wrote:I have been able to get everything I've always wanted. Even the year that I had stood in line for a laptop. I was there early enough to be second in line for it, got my laptop and ran to the next pallet. I had already scoped the store out and knew where everything was.

This is a foreign experience for me as well (and again, makes me wonder if you're in a small market). Whenever I've been at a WalMart that handles BF like yours does (or seen video of one), the pallets have all been immediately cleared by the time the crowd that is there at "opening" clears. Literally, if the sale "opens" at 10:00, there is nothing but bare pallets left by 10:05. Except, of course, if they have some shit that no one wants.

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby Giraffe34 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:24 pm

I don't think any of the stores really have a perfect way of controlling the flow of Black Friday. I do feel that security at the head of lines at all stores is the best way, it's the least they can do, but not all are going to do this of course. Once you get in the store, let's admit it, it's impossible to control what goes on with so many people in the store at once. To have limited quantities of certain items is the bait, so to speak, to get people out, and it works. Heck, works on me, and I'll admit it. It's worth it though because they have loads of others items that are great deals, so even if you don't get the limited item, you can still rack up on great stuff.

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby DramaticAnnie » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:35 pm

I always go to Walmart first. I think I spent about $2k altogether at Walmart this year.
In the state of Maine, they can't be open on Thanksgiving day. So the Walmart opened at 12am, regardless if the flier said 10pm or not. We got in line about 1030, freezing weather, and waited until 12 to get in. They let people in 100 people at a time at their two main entrances and by the time we got in, which wasn't exactly near the front or anything but nowhere near the back of the line, a lot of stuff was gone (PS3 bundles, Xbox bundles, Waffle makers). I went to get my brother's laptop first (the $388 one) and then went to the sheets second - there was only full and king size when I got there and they were all over the floor because people were just flying through the box trying to get at their size, of course I needed a queen size and didn't get them.

But other then the sheets and the waffle maker (which I already have a cool one, I was just planning to get like six waffle makers and randomly hand them out as Christmas gifts lol) I think we got everything else. I certainly didn't drop two grand on 'nothing'.

I was very impressed with Best Buy. It's so crazy there at opening time, after doing it one year I haven't gone back. This year, we went there at 4am and they still had everything I had wanted. It was also very calm, employees were very helpful and there was still a bunch of people there but no lineups or no crazyness, I was able to move around the store with my cart and get everything. I got my PS3 bundle there, the Kodak Playfull camera, and the Gateway netbook which was a ticket item but they still had some left. Picked up a few movies and they still had a TON of their $29.99 games, some of which were on for $28 at Walmart and sold out immediately. Best Buy will officially become my 'second' store to hit now, after Walmart. Target never really impresses me. I was able to get a sheet set there (for like $29? or $39? Cause I missed the walmart ones) but we went there later in the day. I mainly go to Target for movies and TV on DVD.

So yeah.. I can't relate to those of you who have 24hr Walmarts, lol.

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby BFVet » Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:53 pm

DramaticAnnie wrote:In the state of Maine, they can't be open on Thanksgiving day. So the Walmart opened at 12am, regardless if the flier said 10pm or not. We got in line about 1030, freezing weather, and waited until 12 to get in. They let people in 100 people at a time at their two main entrances


TIL that in Maine, WalMart does it right.

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby BFVet » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:14 am

teknoge3k wrote:For people who use this forum every year, it'd be Walmart because the regulars on this board KNOW to go to Walmart several hours early if they want to get everything on the list. Those who are new to Walmart, or who don't read these forums would vote the other way because they don't know to get there early.

78% disagree. But you're probably right. :lol: :lol: :roll: :D :D

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby tlpbupu » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:31 am

BFVet wrote:
tlpbupu wrote:The last two years they have actually escorted people from the store for having sale things before they give the "official" intercom notice to open.

I was going to ask how this was handled at a store like yours. I've honestly never seen a WalMart employee that would care enough to take any sort of action like this. Just curious, is this a particularly small WalMart or in a particularly small market?

tlpbupu wrote:I have been able to get everything I've always wanted. Even the year that I had stood in line for a laptop. I was there early enough to be second in line for it, got my laptop and ran to the next pallet. I had already scoped the store out and knew where everything was.

This is a foreign experience for me as well (and again, makes me wonder if you're in a small market). Whenever I've been at a WalMart that handles BF like yours does (or seen video of one), the pallets have all been immediately cleared by the time the crowd that is there at "opening" clears. Literally, if the sale "opens" at 10:00, there is nothing but bare pallets left by 10:05. Except, of course, if they have some shit that no one wants.


While size is all relative I would say that yes it is in a smaller market. I live equidistant from two WM. One is definitively a small market as its only competition is Kmart across the street. The one I shop at also has a Target, Kohls, Best Buy etc. close by and is a larger market, but in no way compares to a large city or suburb. If I continue down the road to the next larger town that WM is INSANE. Ran in there once and will never do it again.
I understand what you are saying, but not having experience with the situation of things being opened way early I don't think I can give an honest opinion of how I'd feel. And no, I won't tell you were my WM is :lol:

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby BFVet » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:47 am

tlpbupu wrote:
BFVet wrote:
tlpbupu wrote:The last two years they have actually escorted people from the store for having sale things before they give the "official" intercom notice to open.

I was going to ask how this was handled at a store like yours. I've honestly never seen a WalMart employee that would care enough to take any sort of action like this. Just curious, is this a particularly small WalMart or in a particularly small market?

tlpbupu wrote:I have been able to get everything I've always wanted. Even the year that I had stood in line for a laptop. I was there early enough to be second in line for it, got my laptop and ran to the next pallet. I had already scoped the store out and knew where everything was.

This is a foreign experience for me as well (and again, makes me wonder if you're in a small market). Whenever I've been at a WalMart that handles BF like yours does (or seen video of one), the pallets have all been immediately cleared by the time the crowd that is there at "opening" clears. Literally, if the sale "opens" at 10:00, there is nothing but bare pallets left by 10:05. Except, of course, if they have some shit that no one wants.


While size is all relative I would say that yes it is in a smaller market. I live equidistant from two WM. One is definitively a small market as its only competition is Kmart across the street. The one I shop at also has a Target, Kohls, Best Buy etc. close by and is a larger market, but in no way compares to a large city or suburb. If I continue down the road to the next larger town that WM is INSANE. Ran in there once and will never do it again.
I understand what you are saying, but not having experience with the situation of things being opened way early I don't think I can give an honest opinion of how I'd feel. And no, I won't tell you were my WM is :lol:

I always wonder. I live in the Orlando area now, but grew up in central Wisconsin. There is a small town there, called Berlin, that has a WalMart. The population of the city is 5,300. And it isn't really a suburb of anything (closest city of any size is Oshkosh that is 30 miles away). I've always wondered what that WalMart is like on BF. I wonder if they really even "do" Black Friday or if everybody just drives the 30 miles to the big city.

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Re: Poll: Who does it right, Walmart, or everyone else?

Postby mechimpaired » Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:11 am

There are two options for us on BF. One is the last stop Walmart for about 100 miles or more. Alot of people from rural counties come to that Walmart because it is the closest. Secondly, the next Walmart in the county is the only Walmart that serves a mid size city. Meijer and Kroger are the competition. Move on to Lexington and I *hear* every walmart is bad but I have never ventured into a Lexington Walmart because up until this year we start local and had moved up towards Lexington. This year we zigzaged!
My vote is tied with Target/TRU. TRU got it right this year but had been bad in the past. Target usually is great but this year the line moved very fast but they aisles blocked off which made it hard to negotiate a route in the store.


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