Black Friday: a race to the bottom

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Black Friday: a race to the bottom

Postby g-man430 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:42 pm

“The lunacy of opening at 12 midnight or even earlier on Thanksgiving evening shows that this whole Black Friday thing has run out of legs,” said IDC Retail Insights program director Greg Girard. “Black Friday is a race to the bottom, and it’s just become another ad avenue.”

Source: http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2 ... -arms-race
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Re: Black Friday: a race to the bottom

Postby headbanger783 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:20 pm

great articles with lots of good points......i'm all for the 4am opening at but i wouldn't attend anything that FORCES employees to leave a holiday off with family

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Re: Black Friday: a race to the bottom

Postby anaberration » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:15 pm

Best Buy Inc. is following the crowd and will open at midnight on Black Friday.
But the Richfield, Minn.-based electronics giant is doing so reluctantly.
Best Buy CEO Brian Dunn said Friday that the company, which opened at 5 a.m. on the day after Thanksgiving last year, planned to open at a "much more civilized hour, like 3 or 4" a.m, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported.
But Dunn said that after the Target .. , Macy's .. , Kohl's .. and other retailers announced they were opening at midnight this year, Best Buy decided to follow.
"I feel terrible because ... it'll change some Thanksgiving plans for some of our employees," Dunn said. "I know that the decision has been a bit controversial with some of our folks, but the truth of the matter is, the customers will be out there, lined up, for that midnight opening."

Yeah Brian Dunn is sorry all the way to the bank. Best Buys' stock is in the crapper and they treat their employees as if they are crap also.

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Re: Black Friday: a race to the bottom

Postby Russell Burrows » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:33 pm

Yeah sure Brian! and BB going with the 12 opening flow has nothing to do with last years smackdown on BF by Target!! Target Westie 40" 298 versus BB Westie 40" at 499!!

The lines at BB shrank! from 600+ to maybe, maybe 300+ in BF 2010 and the lines at Target grew from maybe 200+ to two thousand+(or more depending on store).

Thats why this years BF ad by BB is good since BB is very, very worried about a close to empty store scenario from 2010 BF.

BB is worried about Target and Walmart doing the smackdown on them in 2011 and thats the real! reason for a 12 AM opening on BF.

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Re: Black Friday: a race to the bottom

Postby drinkgreen » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:08 pm

With the negative press that BB, Target, and other stores are getting due to the hours, AND violating Massachusetts state law about working on Thanksgiving, I hope the retailers look at this as not worth it and go back to the 4am openings next year

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Re: Black Friday: a race to the bottom

Postby anaberration » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:19 pm

drinkgreen wrote: AND violating Massachusetts state law about working on Thanksgiving


Ohhhh ahhhhhh ! A 17th century outdated law, whoopdeedo....Blue laws were designed to enforce religious standards, sometimes refer'd to as colonial New England law designed to enforce certain moral standards regarding commerce on Sundays. Since when is Thanksgiving a religious holiday ? Because someone from Mass. got a lawyer and managed to get a judge to agree.

Ok, lets enforce these MASSACHUSETT laws that are also still on the books:
(1) It is illegal to give beer to hospital patients.
(2) At a wake, mourners may eat no more than three sandwiches.
(3) Snoring is prohibited unless all bedroom windows are closed and securely locked.
(4) No gorilla is allowed in the back seat of any car.
(5) Children may smoke, but they may not purchase cigarettes.

These are actual law in Mass. and the State of Mass. should spend state money, from Mass taxpayers to enforce them.
I say set up roadblocks in Mass. and perform backseat gorilla checks !

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Re: Black Friday: a race to the bottom

Postby headbanger783 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:08 am

anaberration wrote:
drinkgreen wrote: AND violating Massachusetts state law about working on Thanksgiving


Ohhhh ahhhhhh ! A 17th century outdated law, whoopdeedo....Blue laws were designed to enforce religious standards, sometimes refer'd to as colonial New England law designed to enforce certain moral standards regarding commerce on Sundays. Since when is Thanksgiving a religious holiday ? Because someone from Mass. got a lawyer and managed to get a judge to agree.



It has nothing to do with religion....some places in Mass are closed on holiday like veteran's day....like the Walmart in Weymouth Mass

Actually Mass is enforcing this law thats why most stores have pushed back their times to 1am...walmart in Mass isn't opening until 4am on black friday


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